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Tricon11
11-20-2008, 06:31 PM
I know I am LOL! After reading this artical below I am to assume that I can go to my bank and sign a form that states I will not gamble online, then I can use my bank credit card again to gamble? Course I am not supposed too LOL!
You read it, see what you think.

November 15, 2008
Posted By Larry Rutherford
Staff Editor, CasinoGamblingWeb.com
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Anti-gambling groups have shown over the past several days that their intent is internally motivated. A couple of these groups are actually happy with the rules that will regulate the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act.

"The rule that was put in place by the Treasury Department this week accomplished exactly what the UIGEA had set out to do, confuse Americans. There still is no definition as to what is illegal Internet gambling, and all the Treasury Department has done this week is give financial institutions an out," said Paul Shilpher, a legal gaming analyst.

With the new rule, banks must now have customers sign as part of their terms that they are not taking part in gambling activity online. That will do nothing to stop online gambling in the United States. Still, anti-gambling groups believe this was a victory.

"This is a huge victory for families. For the past decade, Congress has tried to pass such legislation, and now it is complete," said Chad Hills, an analyst for gambling research and policy at Focus on the Family Action.

A victory for families is one way to describe what happened. The only problem is that it is still not illegal for individuals to gamble online. That means that families have not been protected by the new rule.

There are many current legislators that believe they have the answer that will truly help American families. That answer is regulation of the online gambling industry.

If regulated, the industry would pump millions if not billions of dollars into the American economy. That is something that would help families. Regulations would also mean that companies would have to follow laws regarding age requirements and loss limits, something that currently does not have to be adhered to. That would also help families.

"Unfortunately, remarks like those of Mr. Hills show the problems of today's society. People are fighting for some things that they do not even clearly understand. Their sole purpose is to feel good about themselves that they are fighting for a cause," said Nicholas Tremedary, a former lobbyist who now works as a consultant. "In the case of these new rules that have been published, they still do almost nothing to stop Internet gambling in America."

Daera
11-20-2008, 10:22 PM
I agree, that this does nothing more than confuse people further then they already were about the rules surrounding UIGEA. It's especially confusing to understand what exactly is legal and illegal, and where.

Agencies Issue Final Rule to Implement Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/bcreg/20081112b.htm)

If you really want to get a headache, try reading and understanding this:

Federal Register notice (http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/bcreg/bcreg20081112a1.pdf)

I don't know that it's as simple as signing a document. Many say that banks and other financial institutions are more likely to be over cautious, and are less likely to want to rock the boat.

All the rules really say, is that the financial insituations have to make a reasonable effort to block/restrict illegal online gambling transactions. It doesn't specify how.

There's a good write-up here (http://pokerplayersalliance.org/action-alert/uigea/) about things we all can do, to try and help make a change (http://pokerplayersalliance.org/action-alert/uigea/) in our favor. Sitting around and doing nothing, will get us nothing.

You might want to visit TwoPlusTwo Forums (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation/uigea-rules-finalized-11-12-08-a-342247/), and read through this thread about this latest move to get the UIEGA rules finalized before the Bush Administration is out.

I hope we see regulation soon. They say that regulating online gambling in the U.S. would make it safer for players, and pump lots of money into our economy. We could sure use that right now.

I get a headache everytime I try and sort though what this all means.

michaelfromvt
11-21-2008, 09:51 AM
Thank you so much Daera for all this solid info in one little post.
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